Welcome back to another LET’S TALK discussion, an opportunity to share thoughts, opinions, quotes and all things related on our selected movie of the week. The discussion is open for 7 days in order to allow everyone around the world to voice their thoughts.
However there’s one big difference, this Let’s Talk discussion proudly brought to you by one of the biggest The Avengers fans out there…The One, The Only, @MelBWrites!!!
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Oh and there will be spoilers discussed so if you haven’t seen the film yet, I suggest watching it and then coming back here to join in on the discussion.

To kick things off, here’s Mel’s review of Joss Whedon’s The Avengers;
Holy hell where do I begin with The Avengers?
I’ll say right now that this is hands down one of, if not the, best superhero movies of all time for me.
And yes, I am including the Chris Reeve Superman films and Nolan’s Dark Knight. I was already a huge fan of Joss Whedon’s work. He is a master storyteller and director with a comic background that includes work in the Marvel Universe with Astonishing X-Men and Runaways, Whedon was the perfect person to helm The Avengers and I want to know why Marvel didn’t turn to him first when they started this wave of superhero films. Unlike previous directors, he “gets” the universe in which these heroes dwell.
Whedon took the groundwork laid out by Marvel and previous directors, then amped it up to the nth degree. Here in The Avengers Thor, Hulk and Captain America are made better. Oh my God was I impressed with what Whedon managed to accomplish with the great golden dunderhead, Captain America. Gone is the cheesetastic corn-fed boy wonder virgin from Brooklyn who always followed orders and never questioned a thing. Here we have someone with a little more complexity, someone who challenges his teammates and questions the leadership of Nick Fury. Can I get an amen?
The cast is amazing. From Hemsworth to Hiddleston to Jackson, Evans and Downey, Jr. each of these mega-talents shines, but they also have a wonderful chemistry together. Ruffalo is incredible taking over the role of Bruce Banner/Hulk from Edward Norton. Scarlett Johansson is completely killer as Natasha Romanoff aka Black Widow. Joss always does really great female characters and Black Widow is no exception. ScarJo more than holds her own on screen, kicking some serious ass with hardly any typical female takedowns. Jeremy Renner was cool as Hawkeye with archery shots were phenomenal. However, it was Clark Gregg as Agent Coulson that stole some hero thunder with his performance. His agent is tough, but has a serious case of hero worship which makes him just a bit awkward. I adored him and he is easily the most accessible character in the film.
The dialogue in here is simply brilliant, and a Whedon specialty. It’s original and distinct with a certain snap and flow, infused with plenty of smart humor and laugh out loud moments. You would never mistake the dialogue in a Whedon project with any other. It would be like saying a Kawasaki sounds just like a Harley-Davidson.
The action and effects are beyond anything. I saw this in the 2D version and thought it was just breathtaking. Whedon makes the entrance of each Avenger a mini film in and of itself. Especially Thor’s. It was worthy of his god status. My only problem was that it happened a little too late in the film. Then again that’s just because I am a Thor woman and wanted him onscreen all the time. The CGI’s were flawless and looked real. Not one thing appeared cartoonish. And he kept a tight rein on everything. A film like this could have easily become a chaotic mess.
Whedon’s screenplay is a wonder. He explores two of his fave themes here, that of team unity, and created family. These loner heroes cannot go it solo. They cannot defeat Loki and his army, unless they come together. That being said, no one can break a team then make them rise from the ashes of blood and sacrifice quite like Whedon can. He is not afraid to make his characters go there, nor does he fear bringing out their flaws and making them fall flat on their faces.
The Avengers is one hellagood rush and I am ready to strap in for round two. Right freaking now.
@Russell_Oz: Wow! What a review, Mel! To say that you enjoyed the film sounds like an understatement!! Man, where to begin….ok first things first. Favourite character in this movie only? Thor is a given
Sounds like you’re more of a Cap American fan now….
@MelBWrites: Yes, I am indeed more of a Cap fan now. There was more to him this time as well as an edge that he really lacked in his own film. Fave character aside from Thor? I loved all of them, but I’d give special props to Agent Coulson and Loki. Coulson brought not only the tough-minded agent aspect of himself, but also that awkward fanboy. He is also a truly honorable man. Unlike Fury and the council, Coulson genuinely cares about these heroes. He is aware of all the little things that make them special beyond their obvious super powers.
Loki is a supervillain for the ages. Hiddleston plays him like a total diva bitch and he relishes diabolical minute. He rocks those huge horns like he was born to wear them. Loki is a trickster, vain and selfish, yet Hiddleston never forgets that there is that overlooked little boy in there who simply wants his big brother’s attention.
@Wayneley: GREETINGS @Russell_Oz AND @MelBWrites
firstly Mel loved your enthusiasm for THE AVENGERS and I totally agree, what a brilliant movie, since watching the movie on IMAX 3D I find it hard to find any real bad points to the movie – Joss Whedon was so the right man for the job, his understanding of the comic universe and his ability to use his own brand of humor when required set’s him aside from many of the big directors of today, his talent in bringing the best out of Scarlett Johansson and bringing a touch of humor to the menacing green stature of The Hulk was typical of Whedon – and not forgetting the handling of Iron Man and Thor’s HUGE EGO’S was brilliant too – one of the many highlights for me!
My favorite character in THE AVENGERS has to be THOR 
Once again Russell a terrific topic to start the weekend…
@InTheFrame1: I’m glad that everyone loves The Avengers, but I’ll be passing on this one. I only like two comic book movies out of the dozens I have seen (both Nolan) and no longer care about seeing them. I must be getting old. I’ll be back for the next discussion involving anything I have seen or want to see though.
@MelBWrites: Thank Wayne! I loved the humor with Hulk as well. Whedon really knows the universe and didn’t miss a detail, I think. And yes, he certainly knew how to handle the titanic egos of Thor and Stark. I loved that fight scene.
Thor was my fave character, too. There’s is just something about the god of thunder.
But Russ asked me to pick my faves aside from Thor. LOL He knows I could go on for pages about my Norseman. 
@MelBWrites: The Nolan films definitely do rank as some of the best. I’ll miss your thoughts this time around, but look forward to the next discussion. 
@CineMarvellous: Sweetheart, that’s a killer review! Seriously! It’s absolutely spot-on and so entertaining to read.
The late appearance of Thor didn’t bother me at all. In fact, it was the other way around – it made me burn in anticipation for him to show up. Same thing with Hulk. As soon as the smashing green monster arrived, it blew everyone else out of the water. That being said, Tony Stark a.k.a. Iron Man remained the highlight amongst the characters. His wit feels so genuine, it excites me.
I loved The Avengers and I can’t wait to see it again. Take that, Dark Knight!
Here’s my brief review of Marvel’s masterpiece:
http://cinemarvellous.blogspot.com/2012/05/97510-avengers-3d-2012.html
@CriminalMovies: I’ve been a fan of the characters in the comics since forever. Marvel is very smart to use what works so well for them there, the shared universe where anyone can run into anyone else. Once they pulled off the Thor and Captain America movies, I knew the Avengers would be spectacular. (I still haven’t seen it, but I will soon and I’ll update if I change my mind.) This movies opens up some possibilities that no one ever dreamed of!
@MelBWrites: I think you will thoroughly enjoy this film I am impressed with how well Whedon balanced the characters. That is not an easy thing to do. I am going to see it again next weekend. LOL One of my nephews couldn’t go yesterday so I’m taking him. Darn it! 
@SquidRash: Hulk was my favorite Avenger. I include Ruffalo in that. Hulk’s moments to shine were not large in number but made up for it in sheer enjoyment for me. The entire movie was excellent, but Hulk stole the show.
@MelBWrites: @SquidRash I agree the Hulk’s scene stealer opps were not plentiful, but Ruffalo more than held his own. And I love, love when he leaps and catches Iron Man. What an awesome scene. I want another Hulk flick for sure.
@Russell_Oz: There is no better feeling in the world then getting up in the morning and see all these awesome comments being left about a great movie and the discussion taking place! A big thanks to everyone for their involvement thus far
I do hear you about Agent Coulson, @Melbwrites. He had a lot more to do this time round and I really loved the scenes between Coulson and Cap, they were awkward but really sweet. I think it added an extra layer of heart to the story. And yes I do hear you loud and clear about Thor! I actually hear the same reasons why you love him being echoed by my girlfriend…it’s funny she never really liked being dragged to a superhero movie but she was ok with Thor…strange huh? And you’re right about Loki, despite everything he is just a guy looking to get his brother’s attention. In lesser hands I think that Loki could have either been played for laughs or as a zany OTT super-villain, Hiddleston was able to tread the very fine line wonderfully.
@Wayneley, what a great comment! Thanks for stopping by and I couldn’t agree more about Thor being my favourite character too! Hemsworth does an amazing job playing the God of Thunder, I can’t wait for the sequel
@InTheFrame1, thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment, sir. I’m sorry to hear that you’re not really an Avengers fan but that’s ok because I was thinking that the next one would be a look back at the Dark Knight before the release of The Dark Knight Rises. Would you be interested in coming back for the discussion for that one?
@CineMarvellous, thanks for posting the link to your review, I will definitely check it out!! I hear you loud and clear about the anticipatory elements re the late arrival of The Hulk! I thought that Ruffalo did a great job and I feel that they’ve finally nailed the right actor for the job. The character of Bruce Banner is a man who knows what he’s capable of but will try to do everything he can to prevent it from occuring.
@CriminalMovies, thanks for stopping by and joining the conversation Brent! I can’t wait to hear your thoughts about the film when you have the opportunity to see it
@SquidRash, Hey Bob! I hear you loud and clear about The Hulk, he was exceptional! Besides Thor (who is my favourite) I think that The Hulk stole the show for me. The finale was brilliant and I think that marvel Studios have FINALLY identified how to do a great Hulk, I look forward to his own movie!!
@Wayneley: I still think SUPERMAN in 78 is my favorite Superhero movie but Whedon’ THE AVENGERS has raised the bar for recent flicks – i’d love to see where they take the Superhero gang from here – maybe we might eventually see Spideman and the New Avengers? THOR 2 – IRON MAN 3 and maybe a BLACK WIDOW movie will next hit our screens all before the possibility of another Whedon AVENGERS outing… I can’t wait!
@MelBWrites: @wayneley @Russell Superman 78 is still an incredible movie. There is nothing like it and it will always be one of my favorites.
I want a Black Widow film. I thought she kicked butt and would love to see her do it for a full length movie.
@Russell_Oz: @Wayneley, you and I agree 100% on the original 1978 Superman movie, it’s definitely my favourite superhero movie! It may not be most well made but it has such a big heart and formed a really big part of my early years
I am very keen for Iron Man 3 but I won’t be going to see a Black Widow movie. I am sure I’m one of only 3 people in the world who didn’t like her character and felt that her and Hawkeye were the weakest parts of the film.
@Bubbawheat: I’m a little surprised with all the Thor love, I thought he and Loki were both great in their movie, but I felt they were a little downplayed in this movie. Thor had a few great lines and some good action scenes, but that was it. I also thought Cap was a little underplayed. In my opinion, Tony Stark stole the show with tons of great lines as well as the heart. And of course the Hulk has amazing comic timing for a giant green monster.
@MelBWrites: @Bubbawheat Thanks for commenting. You’re right, Tony did do a lot of scene-stealing, but i thought Thor and Loki were just right. I thought Cap got a little too much screen time, but he sort of slide into the defacto leader role a bit.
And yes, Hulk’s comic timing was genius.
@Russell_Oz: Thanks for joining the discussion, @Bubbawheat! As a big Thor fan, I think that all the Thor love is that even though he had minimal screen-time he owned the scenes he was in. I personally enjoyed The Avengers but still feel that the standalone Thor movie is better but that’s only because I’m a big fan. As for The Hulk, he owned in this! He was awesome and Ruffalo did a great job as Bruce Banner!
@Zarbicore: I totally agree that this movie could have easily been a massive clusterfk of epic proportions, but Whedon wielded his usual magic and has come out with a genuine contender for movie of the year.
The intro did not seem slow at all, and set the scene perfectly. The characters were all introduced in a great manner. It could have been so easy to rush the introductions, or introduce everyone at once but Joss took his time and picked his moments to perfection.
One thing I really loved was the comedy relief in the movie. Most of it came from Iron Man and of course The Hulk, and each moment was absolutely hilarious. I find having moments like these scattered throughout the movie really adds something special, and really helps you forget that you are watching one hell of a long movie. I almost fell out of my chair when The Hulk punched Thor. Not only was that hilarious, but it made the scene make sense, because prior to that I was wondering “why is the Hulk suddenly being 100% co-operative?”.
I probably won’t get around to seeing it again at the movies due to the cost of the cinema these days, but I will be buying it on BluRay as soon as possible. A truly great movie and it really opens the door for more Avengers movies and Joss has made me believe that even more heroes can be added without turning the movie into a total mess. I just hope he doesn’t add in the Fantastic Four.
@MelBWrites: @Zarbicore Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I loved the Hulk’s punching of Thor and I also loved the fight scene between him and Thor. That moment when Hemsworth wipes the blood off his lip, it is on. What a battle!
I will definitely own this as well. I think I own all of Joss’ films and series. He’s one of my fave directors. He knows how to use those comic moments to break the tension to perfection.
@Russell_Oz: Hey @Zarbicore, thanks for joining the conversation! Great points! You make a great point that Whedon did indeed take his time with the introductions and made sure that everyone had their time in the sun. It could have easily have been something that seemed rushed just to get to the action but the pacing was perfect. Especially Mark Ruffalo and The Hulk were concerned, it was a slow burn.
LOL! Yeah that scene with The Hulk and Thor was perfect. I think the scene I laughed hardest at was The Hulk and Loki…it was hard to breathe afterwards!
Maybe on a long enough timeline perhaps The Avengers might be the $8 movie of the week
@CineMarvellous: Russell, I agree about Mark Rufallo. He was the best Hulk of them all. I hope you like my review, even though it’s nothing compared to Mel’s.
Ah, she’s awesome.
@MelBWrites: @Cinemarvellous Thank you so much hon! Your words mean a lot to me as I truly love your reviews. You have the hugest passion for film and it shines through every time.
I agree. Ruffalo owned Bruce Banner and the Hulk. He more than held his own agains the others and his scenes with Tony were brilliant. I about choked when Hulk pounded Loki into the 25th century. That was killer. And that look on Loki’s face. You could just imagine the old cartoon tweety birds flying around his head.
@Russell_Oz: I totally dug your review, sir! Comment has been left
You raise some good points, and yes you’re right, Mel’s awesome!
@MelBWrites: Hey everyone Avengers just opened here in the US to 200.3 million dollar opening weekend. the highest in history. Booyah Harry Potter!
@Russell_Oz: AWESOME! What an effort! Hellooooooooo Avengers 2, 3, and 4!
@MelBWrites: @Russell I know, right? 2,3 and 4 for sure. And all directed by Joss. I think Mr. Whedon just stamped his golden ticket. 
@Russell_Oz: Agreed! Do you think his success might see a return of Firefly or another Serenity movie?
@MelBWrites: @Russell I don’t know, I sure hope so. I am a Browncoat and there has been a hole in my heart since Mal and crew went off the air. I know this may see the realization of more than few Whedon projects that were put on the backburner because of money.
@Russell_Oz: Given a $200m opening for The Avengers, surely someone must be asking the same questions?
@Wayneley: Personally I hope Whedon walks away from the franchise as director – he’s done an amazing job bringing THE AVENGERS to the big screen HOW can he better what he has already achieved? (let it go) and concentrate on a new venture – i’m sure a DOLLHOUSE or another SERENITY outing would fit the big screen bill just fine!
@Russell_Oz: Wow! That’s a big call, Wayne! I can see why you’d say it though, once you deliver something that big and impressive, how could someone find a way to top it! I guess that might be the challenge that lays ahead for James Cameron and his ‘Avatar’ sequels.
@Bubbawheat: Honestly I think I would like to see Joss helm a movie that focuses on the non-super members of S.H.I.E.L.D. (You know I’m a nerd because I *always* add the periods) such as Black Widow and Nick Fury.
@Russell_Oz: Much respect to you, sir!!! Gotta love the proper spelling of S.H.I.E.L.D
As much as I love your comment I don’t know if I’d be interested in watching the non-superher0 film because I hated Sam Jackson as Nick Fury (it was just Sam Jackson with an eye-patch) and I felt that Black Widow was just a weak character…think I’d rather watch Thor again LOL!
@Bubbawheat: That’s kind of my point though, while the S.H.I.E.L.D. members didn’t get as much love as they could have in this movie, I think if he actually put his focus on them he could turn them into something special.
@MelBWrites: Avatar, schmavatar. The world does not need more blue people and flying pigeons.
I hope Avengers and Dark Knight break every record set by that film. Blech! It was like pretty frosting on a stale cake.
I think Whedon should do at least one more Avengers film. I also think that Whedon did a great job creating a stronger Black Widow. Natasha is unfortunately the victim of Stan Lee’s ham-fisted past creation efforts. He likes his women strong, but not stronger than men, blatantly curvy and oozing sex appeal ala Jessica Rabbit. Have you ever seen those old Black Widow comics? Sheesh!Playboy Bunnies with guns.
I thought Black Widow killed it in the beginning when she took out those Russians while tied to a chair and she manipulated a god when she fooled Loki into giving it all away. Even if there’s not a Black Widow film, there has got to be some female superhero film very soon. The time has come and H-wood should look to some female comic authors like Rosario Dawson, Gail Simone and Timora Pierce.
Craig: I knew Melissa would rock this review for this rockin’ movie – and she totally did! You also hit on something totally true – a movie with this much going on could well have become a formless blobby mess of sturm und drang – but Whedon kept a firm hand on the wheel and drove us all right across the finish line! Excellent review! Cool to be over here in new environs!
@Wayneley: @Russell_Oz as you may know i’m a huge Cameron fan and loved AVATAR but wish he would stop there, one is enough! – Like @MelBWrites I was impressed the way Whedon handled the Black Widow character and thought Scarlett done a pretty good job and i’m pretty sure the money men over at these film studios are planning a big screen outing for the Widow as i’m tapping my keyboard. As for THE AVENGERS I can see it running like the BOND franchise, every two years a new movie & more new characters 
@CriminalMovies: Just watched Avengers and I couldn’t be happier. Whedon and everyone involved totally nailed it. It had the dynamic of the Avengers comics that I loved when I was growing up. The threat was big enough to justify them getting together, the characters all had great moments. Ruffalo and the Hulk were my main concern, but I thought he pulled it off perfectly. It had a little bit of everything I could’ve asked for.
@MelBWrties: Hooray!! I am so happy that you enjoyed the Avengers and that it lived up to your childhood memories. Whedon put together a masterpiece that this crew of actors completely pulled off. I thought Ruffalo made a most excellent Hulk, too.